The Interactive Classroom
Last year here at me-dot-com we introduced a (semi) regular day (once a week-ish) where I would leave the cyber classroom for a while and hand over the teaching reins to you, my readers. The idea being that I would put forward a topic for your digestion, consideration, discussion and debate… and then get out of the way. It proved to be an interesting, valuable and popular addition to the site. I like the idea of us all being able to teach each other, and this forum gives us that opportunity. We’re all teachers if we choose to be. If you have a history of being a spectator (reader) rather than a player (commentor) on this site, then today I’m personally inviting you to do something new; comment. Share a story, thought, idea, philosophy or experience. We don’t bite. 
Is this all there is?
Have you ever found yourself in the middle of the “is this all there is?” feeling? Is it a question you’ve asked yourself? Do you ever get to the point where - even though your life appears to be hovering somewhere between okay and fantastic (outwardly) – the internal reality (how you feel) just doesn’t correlate with the (apparent) external situation? On some level, you are successfully unsuccessful. So to speak.
Discussion questions:
- Why do you think you (periodically) feel this way?
- Do you feel this way often?
- Does feeling this way mean something is missing in our lives?
- Where do these feelings come from?
- What have you learned?
- What did(do) you do about it?
- Do we look for answers, meaning and purpose in the wrong places?
- Could it be a spiritual void?
- Do you think we need to change (1) us (2) the situation (3) both (4) something else (5) nothing?
Love your thoughts on this subject. Feel free to answer as many (or few) of the above questions as you like. Also, feel free to respond to other comments – that’s what makes this such an interesting and valuable process. I (okay, Johnnie) will send a few signed copies of my book Fattitude (anywhere in the world) to the commentors who push my buttons. Just because.
Ciao xx
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At those times in my life when I’ve experienced the “is this all there is” malaise, upon reflection I have discovered that I was comparing my progress or worth to societal “norms”.
I have discovered that when I am guided by my own inner compass, life becomes immensely more fulfilling, rewarding and hopeful. Whenever I slip into the trap of attempting to navigate my life according to another person’s compass, despair and a sense of comparative failure and doom can easily set in. When I allow myself to be guided by my own values, I become lighter, happier, and less fearful. Life become joyous and full of potential.
The morale? To thine own self be true!
Yeah, I have. Although, lately it’s been “can life get any better than this?” because it seemingly does keep getting better. Like, when is it going to stop getting better? Without sounding pessimistic, am I going to crash from my mountain top soon? I’d say that’s entirely up to me.
On the flip side. I’ve just about reached my threshold with only getting 4-5 hrs sleep a night. The only way I’m getting by is that I’m (still) not working (or studying) and so I can sleep/rest when I need to. Yes, I know that sleeping during the day is ‘bad’ in terms of re-establishing a sleep routine but come on, how is one meant to stay awake from 1:45 AM to 9:00 PM? That’s 19 1/4 hrs, isn’t it? That is longer than the 17 hr cutoff for my ironman triathlon and there’ll be shit loads of stuff going on around me (and in my head) to keep me awake on 6 March!
My insomnia is mimicking some depressive symptoms now, and I’m more than a little scared. Crying yourself to sleep at night and waking up at 1:45 AM, crying, can’t be classified as ‘healthy’ or ‘normal.’ It’s triggered me to investigate meditation and possibly even go to Introductory Buddhist classes. An 8 week course started tonight (Tues) actually, but as I’ll be away in NZ for nearly half of it, I decided not to go. I bet they’ll cover ‘meditation’ while I’m away. As luck would have it.
Yes, this is familiar territory. I recognize this feeling from personal experiences, as well as experiences of clients. I think it’s usually a sign of 1 of 2 things:
1) that we achieved something and our external lives didn’t turn out the way we thought because of it. For example, we became famous, but we didn’t get the love and appreciation we expected from that.
2) that the process itself of getting there was so hard and exhausting the we are burned out at the finish line, and can no longer experience pleasure.
In either case, I think understanding yourself and your motivations is a good starting point to prevent all of this.
Eduard
I’m crossing my fingers that Matt, who commented on the last post, has some perspective to offer here.
Sure, I’ve had the occasion to wonder if this is all there is, when I’ve trudged to a job that made me cry in dread of another day.
But once I figured out what would fulfill me, (which was a job in itself) and took the steps to get myself into that field, the only time I’ve asked myself that question has been during the loss of a loved one.
I have a strong faith, which doesn’t seem to be limited by any specific religion. ( I love aspects of all of them!) But there is a point, after the death of a friend or family member, where I still find myself wondering if this is all there is.
I don’t know if that space in time when I seem to lose my faith is the spiritual void that Craig mentioned or if that defines grief.
Anyway, pretty soon, my faith re-emerges and carries me through the motions of life until I get my bearings again, and hangs around until the next loss throws the whole world into question again.
Matt, with your experience as a Funeral director, do you think that period of grieving is inevitable?
Maybe it’s not about whether your faith is strong enough, but just about how sad you are to see someone go.
Fortunately, much of this life is a thrill ride.
Hello, nice posts of late.
Lets see, yep, ‘Is This All There Is’:
I have started off this year with the mission of ‘for once and all’ get fitter, shed fat, pay off debt then get financially ahead as well as learn new stuff, have new kind of fun etc………………you get the drift.
One little lifestyle objective is to reduce the amount of alcohol I drink, – one of my pleasures, (particularly champagne or sparkling dry wine). This is good for training and frees up maybe an extra $40 a week. Today I had a busy day as per norm and really again felt like enjoying a glass or two tonight! But I knew I wasn’t gonna be happy with myself if tonight I for no reason went and bought some and indulged. I was then thinking of other alternatives to alcohol. Firstly diet coke and coke zero came to mind BUT……….not an option as I quit diet soft drinks for good over 2 years ago as always telling myself they were harmless cause of very few calories. (I know they aren’t harmless drinks/addictive and chemical laden). A can of solo came to mind, but then I just felt there was no reason to consume all the sugar before tea. I don’t seem to enjoy hot drinks in the evening as much. Juice and iced tea…..to sweet. Big smoothie, – yum but unnecessary calorie wise just before tea, (perhaps OK as it’s own meal but balanced over day).
It was all a bit painful to fantasise about but in the end I just had free water over frozen ice cubes from freezer feeling a bit hard done by temporarily! Another option that isn’t an artifically flavoured ‘diet’ drink but with lowish calories could be diluting fresh fruit juice with water and ice or diluted juice/water flavoured iceblocks. Still will prob just stay with water.
So that’s an example of a small ‘day to day’ feeling of ‘is this all there is’ on a more vulnerable day. But this is better than feeling out of control, embarrassed to go visiting people cause of sudden rapid weight gain, feeling unfit, not feeling comfy in jeans and fitted singlet ladeda.
When you start asking the question ” Is this all there is?” you are simply stalled. The answer to that question is always “no”.
There is always more to learn about yourself & your personal journey, about how the universe works and what we are contributing to it.
There is always excitement and joy around the corner, if that is what you want to attract in your life. It is totally up to you.
So, I had this goal… to build this fantastic, awesome, wanta live there house. I worked for two years planning, re-planning (I am a girl after all) drawing and re-drawing and then, finally building that house. The night before the closing, I didn’t even sleep because I was just so EX-citedddd. Walking through the door that first time was one of those cool memories, the kind that you do not forget too soon. That night, in bed, I had one of those ‘is this all there is’ moments… I had been working and planning for so long and I had arrived, literally. It was almost like, ‘so what now?’ Being on a ‘mission’ is a good thing. It keeps you out of trouble I think;-/ But too, when you arrive, you have to be ready to get a new mission. Not having the old one, leaves a void and makes you feel like you are on shaky ground. At least it was that way for me. Missions are a good thing… I am my best when I know what I am goaling towards. In the end, I think having a mission to have something happen, or in my case to build something, isn’t the most important type of goal to have. That first week in my shiny new house, I had that feeling. I kept asking myself that question, ‘so what do I do now’… I think that I came away believing that the worthy goals are those involving relationship. Building a house, was just that… after all, I did not own it really. The bank did (does)… go figure….
The best cure for the cerebral fog is – simple joys of life. Think positive. Tell yourself : I am going to enjoy this and that, it would be great if, it is so relaxing to… and then actually do those things.
And, think of trees growing faster due to the global warming, as a reminder that there is a good side to most things.
Jules, do you think that maybe your insomnia is triggered by overtraining? Just a thought because I’ve been there…
I like Robyn’s wisdom the best… he should get a book! Or she… I’m sorry im not sure!
My advice is to not judge those moments as they float by… nod at them as they pass, and then look forward to the brighter times, because whatever you do, however you feel, there will be some
xx
i admit I have been a lurker for quite a while reading your posts to help me keep focused on my goals, I find your posts help me everyday to keep motivated with my life goals.
I have at times felt all the feelings above, but have decided to make major changes in my life, with regards to my weight, so I can feel healthier and happier with myself. So far I have lost 16kg since 1/9/09 and have still quite a way to go.
thank you for the post everyday! I really enjoy them!
Jen
I remember having one of those ‘is this all there is moments’ when I turned 40. It was a time for reappraisal and I started looking at the self help section in book stores for a book to jump out and choose me, according to what my needs were at the time. This strategy has always worked brilliantly. It has been a case of my inner wisdom taking the lead when all the thinking in the world can’t work out what’s going on. Needless to say 10 year on I now have a decent library.
I now understand that what I was looking for was a connection with myself. I was a daughter, wife, mother. worker, friend etc etc but who was I when I finally became still at the end of the day?. Meditation has helped me find a sense of myself. I never quite understood the power of meditation although I had been drawn to the idea for many years… once again the inner wisdom. Life can and will deliver its ups and downs but strengthening the connection I have with myself is what has kept me bouyant.
On the outside things appreared ok- a marriage with ups and downs, a job I enjoyed
Why do you think you (periodically) feel this way?
I think it’s inevitable/natural to occasionally question your personal journey through life and if you are happy with what you are doing.
Do you feel this way often?
Probably about 3 or 4 times per year.
Does feeling this way mean something is missing in our lives?
As I get older, I don’t take life for granted and realize my journey could end at any time, due to accidents, illness, etc. So I try to enjoy life as much as I can and appreciate what I have and strive for what is important to me. So yes, it could mean something is missing. If I feel I am just going through the motions of life, I try to find meaningful activities, etc.
Where do these feelings come from?
Though I am not particularly religious, I do think this comes from the soul/spiritual realm.
What have you learned?
Value what you do have and your uniqueness, instead of focusing on what you don’t have. Love life. Leave the past in the past. Appreciate your (good) friends and family. Don’t be afraid to minimize contact with anyone who always brings you down, i.e., emotional vampires. Learn. Read. Help others.
What did(do) you do about it?
It’s a continuous journey . . . but I am much happier now then I was in my teens and 20′s. See above. I did cut some old friends and family out of my life due to the unhealthiness of the relationship. Yes, I do have regrets that it had to happen, but I do not regret my decision.
Do we look for answers, meaning and purpose in the wrong places?
Yes, I think people look to material goods to make them happy. New clothes, jewelry, car, etc. will only give you a very temporary lift.
Could it be a spiritual void?
Absolutely.
Do you think we need to change (1) us (2) the situation (3) both (4) something else (5) nothing?
All of the above, depending on the situation. Starting with ourselves and working outward.
Firstly, I need to mention that even though this is all via a computer screen it still freaks me out to be putting this out there…. thankyou all for your courage!
I consider myself to be a little bit of a hippie.. I do all those hippie things like drive a kombi, play djembe drums and wear cheesecloth… I also like to SEEK.. to search high and low for purpose, for meaning, for clarity. I recently came accross the teachings of OSHO, and his description of the hippie and that they are constantly seeking, but never stop still within their own presence. I think we all have a fragment of the hippie in us, and until we can find peace in stopping, and remaining still within we will continue to seek. OSHO also mentions that with pleasure comes pain – happiness, unhappiness you can never have one without the other. Like the pleasure of meeting up with an old friend, mixed with the pain of then saying goodbye and leaving them. Then he speaks of moving into happiness and unhappiness rests in the mind. What I think will make me happy and then doesn’t (like eating food to drown my sorrows), proving the mind can only bring peace when it is speaking through my heart. For me this is where JOY exists, and nothing can counteract this. JOY comes in living in your heart living in the present moment. I have some heartbreak to clear to bring me to a place of JOY but I have TRUST that we are now in a time where many of us are finding a deeper faith in each other and this is will come to LIFE and many will experience JOY!
The ‘Is this all there is?’ question was not so much a feeling but a rude interjection into an otherwise ordinary day. It was Friday 24th July 2009. At about two-thirty in the afternoon.
I was driving alone and my thoughts were interrupted with the sudden, unwelcome realisation that:
At this moment I have everything that I have always wanted.
If this is all there is, then it is an empty victory. I have everything but nothing.
The insight came with such force and clarity that I could not question it. I knew it to be true. I still don’t know which part of me it came from but I understood immediately that it was a gift: an unwanted, disturbing, life-changing gift.
I have spent the past twenty years achieving external ‘success’; creating the kind of life that anyone would be proud to take to their high school reunion. The feeling of happiness never quite materialised but I still always believed that it would come in the future. I told myself that I would be happy when: I finish my degrees, I get a great job, I get married, I have a baby, I have a bigger house, I have another baby, Jesus comes back, I lose weight and get fit, the children get older, I have an even bigger house, I have a new car …
All those things I now have (except for Jesus coming back, we would have noticed that). And yet … there it is: the indisputable truth that what society tells us is the ‘perfect’ life is an empty life.
Of course, my children bring me great joy and some fulfilment. But I also know that I don’t own them. My role as their mother is to help them to become independent, resilient, beautiful adults. It is not their job to make me happy. What an awful burden that would be.
I have, indeed, been looking for answers, meaning and purpose in the wrong places; forever grasping the external, transitory ‘must-haves’ to prove myself to others, never looking within. You could call it a ‘spiritual void’, a lack of awareness, an unconsciousness or an inability to ‘be’ but the result is a pervading sense of melancholy and anxiety. I am angry with myself for being so superficial but I’m also angry that I wasn’t told the correct place to look. Or maybe I was. Maybe I just didn’t want to listen.
So, here I am. I am grateful that I have experienced this awakening now rather than still believing that happiness awaits in some external object or event in the future – one could waste a lifetime trapped in that delusion. However, the challenge now is to use this new awareness to create an amazing life. To be present in my own life. To grow up and take responsibility.
Part of the journey will be to change me: my thinking, attitude, spiritual beliefs, priorities, self-image – all the stuff that goes on inside my head. The other part of the journey will be to change some aspects of my life situation, to perhaps be content with less in order to grow and discover myself.
Christina xxx
this is me. I thought it was just my mid-life crisis kicking in. I have 3 great kids, who I love to bits, a supportive husband. I lost my job in the GFC, but I’m back at work after nearly 9 months even if it is only a contract.
My feeling of ‘is this all there is’ is one of being a failure. Even though on the outside I seem reasonably together, on the inside I not coping as well.
Want to be thinner, healthier so I train hard, and love training, but still not happy with the results. Great kids and husband, but I feel like a failure because I work etc, etc.
The inner conflict wears you down. I know I shoudl meditate, but it is almost as if I don’t want to see inside. I’m constantly in denial.
My two cents worth.
NHJ
I hate when I feel this way. It usually happens when I have been neglecting my spiritual self and have been too focused on myself. Focusing on helping someone else often snaps me out of it.
Ok, so I am one of those “lurkers” that you mention on a periodic basis (just as a side note, I really enjoy reading your emails and hope you one day head to Perth). Anyway, on this occasion I felt compelled to write in for the first time because “is this all there is” was a question that frequently popped up for me, usually accompanied by a feeling of blind panic which subsides only when rational thought kicks in! I am writing this at work, off the cuff, so hopefully my rambling will make sense by the time I get to the end.
I think the kicker for me came the day that my primary focus stopped being an “aspirational” one. Basically, for years I had had my eye on some prize in the distance – a uni degree, the “perfect” job. For years I figured I’d be happy when I reached whatever achievement I had set as my goal and worked and worked and worked. Then – shock horror – a couple of years into the perfect job and I realised I wasn’t happy. In fact, sometimes I hated it with a passion.
I then got to thinking about all the things I “could have” and “should have” done with my life – all the alternative careers I’ve probably missed out on, the travels I never undertook, the other places I could be living – things I could have pursued if I hadn’t made work my sole focus. I started thinking about change and it all seemed overwhelmingly hard. Here’s an example: God, I’m sick of living in a share house – I wish I could afford a place of my own. Damn, I don’t earn enough money for a place of my own. Maybe I should jack it in and go travelling and live a fabulous, artistic life on the road. Hmm, can’t do that because I have to pay the mortgage. And I have no savings because money is tight. Maybe I should move to Melbourne. Oh, but Melbourne is too cold and the job market is tight. I should stay put – that’s the most sensible thing. I should move – but I don’t want to take on a new lease so I’m not locked in if I do decide to move. So I guess I have to stay where I am. God, that means staying at my job. And my house. Argh. And so on.
This endless “grass would be greener if … if … if” syndrome is exhausting. It’s a catch 22 – my terror about leading a mediocre life had me constantly fantasising about life could have and should have been, obliterating all the wonderful things about my life in its wake. It had me constantly craving more money, a better job, a better wardrobe, a better LIFE! It also inspired considerable guilt – after all, my life is not that bad. I have all my limbs and my faculties. I am healthy, and smart. And yet I focus on all the attributes and possessions and lifestyle I don’t have, which results in misery, not joy.
I see this all the time among my friends and family. So many of us are unhappy with the lot we feel we have been dealt in life. We want more money, more beauty, an easier job, the adoration of our peers. A spiritual void is a perfect way to describe it. We idolise our reflection and the perfect world beamed at us through magazines, television screens and social networking. We are never satisfied. I constantly encounter people who worship consumerism over their fellow man and would sacrifice a life to save their flatscreen TV. I started to shudder when I went into giant megalithic shopping malls which encourage gluttonous consumption of food, clothing, whitegoods and entertainment. We have spent so much time attending to our outsides, filling the void with stuff, that our insides are empty.
I have decided to eliminate those things which I feel have contributed to my own sense of unhappiness and review the things that are important to me. First to go is the bad attitude – yep, suck it up princess, you don’t have all the things you crave but guess what – you have a roof over your head, a full belly most of the time and the ability to pay your bills. A hell of a lot more than most people on the planet have. I have also decided to give myself less excuses to be self-critical. I don’t like the roll of fat on my tummy, so I have been to the gym almost every day for six weeks. I don’t like feeling maudlin about life, so I have cut out alcohol altogether. I want to go travelling, so I have set aside money from each pay to fund that (it’s going to take months, but I’ll get there in the end). I check myself constantly to remind myself that I am achieving well in my career, right where I am, and that I have the love and support of wonderful friends.
Is this all there is? Well, it might be for now. But chances are, if I believe in change and believe in myself enough to effect that change, there’s a good chance there’s a whole lot more out there to discover. And I intend to find it!
Hi Guys – great work today. Thanks for taking the time and the energy to share from the heart. Very honest and brave.
A big Hi to Megan, Jen, d, Flip and any other Newbies that I may have missed – group hug ( )
Flip – loved your revelation and insight.
Robyn – you too.
If you two ladies can email your postal details I’ll get Johnnie to send you a copy of Fattitude (or a training diary if you’d prefer)
HEY I didn’t get a go you mean bunch
* Why do you think you (periodically) feel this way?
Life telling us to do something.
* Do you feel this way often?
Not really but I had a bad one at work today when I realised I only have 30 years more or less to go before returning home – i.e. the big D (that’s death)
* Does feeling this way mean something is missing in our lives?
It can but not for me
* Where do these feelings come from?
The mind
* What have you learned?
Oh S**t help!
* What did(do) you do about it?
Pushed it away
* Do we look for answers, meaning and purpose in the wrong places?
Yes when we look to another person to make us happy, we discussed that a week or so ago
* Could it be a spiritual void?
No just a human void in eternity we might be everything and do everything, don’t know but we will find ou
* Do you think we need to change (1) us (2) the situation (3) both (4) something else (5) nothing?
Us or the blogs we read (that was mean
Hi. Don’t know if you’re still accepting comments on the last post but ….
one of my favourite quotes is “Life’s a journey, not a destination”. After an initial ‘high’ from achieving a goal, depressed thoughts often follow (like what Helen & Christina describe) and the “is that all there is” idea of the post. I find it’s good to have and work towards goals but if you’re dependent on them (or someone else) for your ‘happiness’ not everyone will find (or keep) it there. If you work on loving whatever your situation, work, partner, etc. is, you will find more contentment with what you have rather than constantly ‘seeking more’. The work I do can be very difficult and very challenging but I like to focus on the positives it gives me – I feel privileged to be allowed to help other people, I get to learn new stuff every day and I have more flexibility in when I work (mostly around school hours whilst my only, teenage child still wants to talk to his Mum). If you pin your happiness on ‘achieving’ things, that can be the path to psychological stress (distress). Being ‘mindful’ (read: more conscious?) and grateful (I have a diary that has space every day to write down what I am grateful for) and taking pleasure in simple things (as suggested earlier) can be excellent for reaching contentment.
Well written Jo, made me feel much better today.
I love this blog…..Craig you and your many readers and contributors have taught me so much over the past 18 months that I have been reading your site. I really lived in my own little world and thoughts and gave very little time to viewing things from a different perspective. I thought that I was a pretty good listener and friend to those I hold dear, but I have “learnt” so much more from everyone who comments. I have also learnt much about myself and how selfish I really was. I am finally taking responsibility for my thoughts and myself and loving the lessons I’m learning.
I often used to ask “is this all there is”, now I smile at what I have and love being who I am…. for me it is “my change in attitude”.
Thank you
Sue
I think it’s normal to have those “is this all there is?” moments once in a while. What I think is important to work through them is to have goals in each of the different areas of your life to work and life towards; things that make you excited to wake-up in the morning. If you have just one area in life that you “live in”, it’s easy to get in a rut. The different areas I’m thinking of are: (1) professional life: You need to be ehthousiastic about the contents of your job, not just about the money you earn with it (if for some reason this is not possible: you might find your passion in a hobby or in voluntaring for a good cause). (2) family life can bring alot of fulfilment. Even if you don’t have a partner or kids, you can focus on your extended family. (3) spiritual life: for some people religion assures them that there is more than what they experience in the here and now. For others it’s a life philosophy that gives them a larger focus, like a Bouddist friend of mine who regularly meets up with her friends to meditate, or a cousin of mine who is the chairman and founder of a chain of schools for orphans in Nepal. (4) health and wellbeing: as Craig points out so often, we can set goals concerning getting into shape. I’m also thinking of preparing for participating in a sports event, … (5) Continuous education: there are always chances to learn something new and interesting, whether it’s pertaining to your job, a hobby, learning a new language to use on your travels, learning to cook or ballroom dance, etc.
I think if someone can work towards a goal in each of life’s areas (there are probably still others that I didn’t think of) then life will never get into a rut. If you get the “is this all there is?” feeling in one of lives areas, I’m sure the goals you have in the other life areas will get you through the moment. Life is too short to take it for granted.
Love your work, Craig!
Ingrid
A question I have been asking myself recently is “What is the point?”. Being similar to “Is this all there is?” I found myself drawn to comment as you are when something appears to be speaking just to you. I admit to periods of depression and negative thoughts and have been focusing on these of late. While on the outside I could be defined as having a successful life on the inside I experience feelings of discontent and lack of motivation. It is in these moments I ponder the point of life. I recently read an article from a woman who had a positive perspective of depression. Rare in these days when depression is feared and rarely talked about as a means to an end. This woman expressed gratitude for her periods of depression as they were a signal to her that all was not to her liking. A message from her subconscious that there was something in her life that she was not content with. It is an uplifting notion because it places depression and these questions in a positive light, one when your sub conscious mind spurs you on with a message that there is more, because you want more. If you have never pondered “Is this all there is?” then you have never wanted more. I am endeavouring not to be afraid or judgmental when my mind throws up these questions, as I have been in the past, because they used to be a signal of another impending bout of depression and I am now seeing them as my mind awakening and letting me know that now is the moment to approach the next phase of my journey. Now is the time that the next step may be taken. It is not a judgment that things are not how they should be or I am not as good as I should be ( all judgements). They are a celebration of the reaching of another phase, another level, another path because I will not believe that any human being would answer “yes, this is all there is” with happiness in their heart because it is human nature to want and it is human nature to wonder and I relish that.
Gidge
I used to wonder if this was all there was. Then one day in the middle of my life being a shamble I received a gift from God, the Holy Spirit, who taught me to live my life with conviction. I was always one to stand up for what I believe but I was living my life for my own pleasure. Now I live my life for the Lord and do His will and not my own. I have a purpose and that is to make this a better world for all and not just my self or my family. When i get off track all I have to do is remember that I am loved unconditionaly by God and what other people think of me is of no concern. We sometimes in life worry to much what others think of us and this can be a big problem as it can make you become very shallow, and let others determine who we are. Stand up for what you believe in and remember that there is an eternal life and that’s what we all have to look forward to if you will just believe. When I enter the Kingdom of God I want Him to tell me, job well done!!!
Love to all, Sandy